If we are a country in which these important institutions, capitalism, racism, democracy

itself are interwoven, then we need to start thinking about racism in much more sophisticated

ways as not simply interpersonal, though it is that.

But as something that is also intimately connected with our economy, that is connected

with our government that is connected with our politics, that was the core insight of

critical race theory.

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Weeds and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm Jane Kostin, Senior Politics Reporter at Vox, and today my guest is Ian Hadylopas,

Professor of Law at the University of California at Berkeley and author of Merge Left, Fusing

Race and Class, Winning Elections and Saving America.

So today we're going to be talking about an issue which I immediately when I saw a lot

of folks having this conversation on the internet and having this conversation tangentially

on the internet, I thought I needed to reach out to you.

And that is on the subject of the intersection of race and class and the subject of which

is often people have conversations with it within the scope of critical race theory.

And the idea of critical race theory has been a hot debate because I think what we are

seeing is that there is the concept of critical race theory as it was discussed, debated,

devised by academics and activists in the 1970s and 1980s.

And then there is how critical race theory has been disseminated or in some ways utilized

in diversity workplace presentations at businesses and entities, including the federal

government, the Centers for Disease Control, for example.

So I want to start out by asking what are the basic tenets of critical race theory?

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