There we go. Okay. All right. No guarantee that the sound is going to be this great because I believe I'm using my computer microphone, but I'm going to turn it up at least. And at least I can hear Cindy. And that's what's most important. So welcome to she became visible. And Cynthia,

she was my very first guest. I believe this is episode eight or nine. I'm not sure. But she just

had such a wealth of information. I just like I need more. I've got to get more. So I invited it back and she made arrangements to make it happen.

And she, you are, you're out in Pennsylvania, right?

Yes, that's right.

Central Pennsylvania.

Okay.

What is your weather today?

Ah, it's been all over the place.

We had sleet and snow over the weekend and today it's 70 degrees. So 77 tomorrow.

That's insane. I know. Crazy. I know my kids up in Washington State had snow.

Yeah. 31 degrees. And it was 96 down here. It's like the world is coming to an end. But yeah.

So we're going to get started.

Cynthia, I wanted to start out by just reading something that I had found online.

And did I throw my first page away?

Let me see what I did with the first page.

But basically it was statistics of caregivers.

And it was saying that it was talking about caregiver burnout.

And it's one of those things that I think, you know, as you age.

So that was one word to go. There we go. So as you age, sometimes your caregiving involves taking care of your

parents and taking care of your children and you still have a job and you still have maybe a partner of some

kind. And that's where the stress comes in for caregiving. Usually though, in cases like that,

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