What If You Outgrow the Dream Job? with Sam Sanders

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Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Journalist and podcast host Sam Sanders joins us to talk about what happens when the thing you thought you wanted turns out to be too small. We get into the emotional and financial cost of walking away, what it means to do it yourself in a collapsing industry, and how to balance ambition with reality. Want to know what the scariest career pivot Sam Sanders had to make? You can find out at ⁠patreon.com/pastdue⁠. Each week the episode continues with bonus questions, extended interviews… And if you subscribe, you get access to our discord, special episodes, early access, and more. Subscribe at patreon.com/pastdue and tell a friend! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:55.4	Y2K. That's Y2K, spelt W.H.Y2K. When I started working at NPR, when legacy media was at its height,
1:05.7	it seemed like at a certain point in my young, early career that I would always have a job.
1:10.8	Can you still build a
1:12.0	meaningful media career when even the most stable institutions no longer feel safe? I've hosted now,
1:17.6	I'm on my fifth podcast. Sam Sanders has done it all. NPR host, podcast creator, cultural
1:22.9	commentator, and one of the most thoughtful voices in media. But behind the scenes, like so many in the industry,
1:29.0	he's had to constantly adapt, reimagine his role, and deal with the fallout of a crumbling
1:34.3	media landscape. I don't know how long podcasts are going to make anybody money. I got to figure out
1:39.8	my YouTube strategy. If you feel like you're doing everything right and still end up questioning your
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