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Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

What If Steady Work Beats the Big Break? with John Scalzi

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Bestselling sci-fi author John Scalzi joins us for a conversation about creative longevity, pragmatic optimism, and why the goal isn’t to stay hot, it’s to keep going. We talk about building a sustainable career with your partner, the myth of the one big break, and how generosity, structure, and a little chaos can power a life in the arts. Plus: what journalism teaches you about rejection and why it’s okay to not be the next big thing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, book nerds.

0:02.7

Ever wonder what today's most celebrated writers are actually reading?

0:06.1

What books inspired them or their most controversial book opinions?

0:10.1

Well, join me Elena Pasellello on Open Book,

0:13.0

a new literary podcast from Live Wire Radio, PRX, and Powell's books.

0:17.3

Each week I'll talk to best-selling authors like Karen Russell and Melissa Fibos on bookish topics and so much more.

0:23.4

So cozy up and crack a spine.

0:25.5

Open book drops June 11th wherever you get your podcast.

0:34.7

John Scalzi is a best-selling sci-fi author, a longtime blogger, and someone who's built a life and a business around doing the thing he actually wants to do.

0:44.7

Creativity is hard. Being commercially accessible and what I do is hard.

0:50.9

Thinking about stuff long term, like in terms of investments, in terms of finances,

0:56.7

in terms of where we're going to be five, 10, 15 years down the road, which is the, you know,

1:02.4

a skill that I have is hard. We talk about fame, stability, and the myth of the hot new thing

1:09.0

and about what happens when you stop chasing everything

1:11.9

and start building something that lasts.

1:15.1

And so having that constant repetition of no and understanding that that is actually

1:21.1

part of the process like saved me so much, you know, mental anguish.

1:26.8

We also get into his long-running blog, his early

1:30.0

years as a journalist, and what it means to be generous with your platform without letting

1:34.6

your ego take the wheel. The creative economy is broken, but some people are still making it

1:42.2

work. We're here to find out how.

1:45.2

I'm Anna Marie Cox.

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