I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight...

And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke.

A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old.

And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.

How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

Listen to heavyweight wherever you get your podcasts.

Huh, have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

Not much to it, is there?

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

Mmm, that is good.

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

Go all crisp in with walkers.

Delicious.

This week we're talking to journalists and 404 media co-founder Jason Kobler about the economics of independent journalism and the invisible costs that come with going it alone.

Problems don't get solved unless we solve them.

We get into what it takes to build a new media company without billionaires, what AI and broken algorithms are doing to the internet, and why fighting for reader-supported work

means having a lawyer, a label printer, and a lot of faith.

I got really good at going to post office and navigating all this stuff.

I volunteered, and now it's like two years later, I'm like, don't.

Maybe it's time to get some help there.

It's a conversation about transparency,

tradeoffs, and how every day you're not online is money burned. The creative economy is broken, but some people are still making it work. We're here to find out how. I'm Anna Marie Cox,

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