What If DMT Isn’t a Hallucination But a Message From Our Creator: A Neuroscientist Makes His Case - Dr. Andrew Gallimore

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🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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What if the most powerful psychedelic on Earth isn’t just a hallucination—but a message? Neuroscientist Dr. Andrew Gallimore joins us to explore the mind-bending world of DMT, a molecule found in both nature and the human body that seems to reliably transport users to an alien-like realm filled with intelligent beings. In this episode, we dive into the science behind DMT, the mysterious commonalities in user experiences, and why Dr. Gallimore believes it is so important to try to understand. Is this a glimpse of the afterlife, a forgotten technology, or even contact with a creator? Strap in—this conversation will challenge everything you think you know about consciousness. Dr. Gallimore's book, Death by Astonishment: Confronting the Mystery of the World's Strangest Drug, is available wherever books are sold. Learn more about Dr. Andrew Gallimore at noonautics.org/personnel/dr-andrew-gallimore-dmt. Support the Show - Become a Patron! Help us grow and become a Patron today: https://www.patreon.com/smartpeoplepodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is Smart People Podcast, a podcast for smart people, where we talk to smart people,
0:08.3	but not necessarily done by smart people.
0:14.7	What if one of the strangest, most powerful substances on earth, something found naturally in your own body wasn't just a drug,
0:23.8	but a doorway. In this episode, we're diving into a realm few dare to explore with someone who spent
0:29.9	the past 20 years doing just that. Dr. Andrew Gallimore is a neuroscientist, chemist, and
0:35.3	pharmacologist who's made it his mission to understand DMT.
0:39.5	A molecule so potent, so bizarre, and so consistent in its effects, it's been called everything
0:45.7	from a tool for consciousness expansion to a glimpse into another dimension.
0:51.0	But here's the thing.
0:52.2	DMT doesn't behave like any other psychedelic. People from
0:56.2	completely different backgrounds, cultures, and time periods report eerily similar experiences,
1:01.7	encounters, beings, places. And it raises a massive question. What if these aren't just hallucinations?
1:08.9	In today's conversation, we talk about the science behind DMT, what makes it so unique,
1:14.2	and how it's challenging everything we think we know about the brain, perception, and reality
1:19.6	itself. Whether you've never heard of DMT or you've been down the rabbit hole yourself,
1:24.5	this episode will leave you questioning just how much of this world
1:28.5	is really ours. Enjoy. I know as we were talking about, you are across the world in Japan.
1:41.7	It's a different day here. So that alone is kind of
1:45.4	trippy to think about we're existing on different days right now, which kind of leads us into
1:51.3	talking about what you deem the world's strangest drug, which is DMT. So I'd love to just start
1:59.5	because some people listening will have no
2:01.5	idea what that is, what it means, what the drug is. So could you just give us a little 101 on
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