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Real Talk, Whole Life

What if "Bad Behavior" Is Actually A Cry for Help?

Real Talk, Whole Life

Cloud10

Science, Social Sciences, Entertainment News, Health & Fitness, News

4.7 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

What if the behaviors we label as “difficult” are actually communication? Stacy chats with with Beven Byrnes, Executive Director of Bridges Middle School, to unpack what’s really happening for neurodivergent students in today’s classrooms. From post-pandemic social struggles to the pressure on teachers and the rise in diagnoses like ADHD, autism, and learning differences, this conversation looks at the bigger picture—and what’s being missed. They talk about masking, trauma, and why traditional school environments often fail neurodivergent kids, not because they can’t learn, but because the system isn’t built for how they learn best. You’ll also hear practical ways parents can advocate for their children, partner with schools, and shift from punishment to curiosity when behaviors show up. Find Beven: bridgesms.org Find Stacy: ⁠realeverything.com⁠ ⁠instagram.com/realstacytoth⁠ missionmakersart.com⁠ ⁠missionalchemists.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I am here today with Bevan. Hello listeners and welcome back to Real Life Whole Talk.

1:13.1

I am here today with Bevan Burns, the executive director of Bridges Middle School in Portland, Oregon, which is Oregon's only middle school for exclusively neurodivergent learners.

1:25.8

Is that correct?

1:26.9

That is correct. And you're the mom of four neurodivergent learners. Is that correct? That is correct.

1:28.7

And you're the mom of four neurodivergent children. I'm the mom of four, several of which are

1:33.7

neurodivergent as well. So I'm excited to talk today about this, what I'm calling

1:41.1

push and pull, this dichotomy that seems to be happening in our social

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