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The Commentary Magazine Podcast

What Hath Mueller Wrought?

The Commentary Magazine Podcast

Commentary Magazine

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2019

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

On today’s podcast, we argue (really!) about what Bob Mueller was saying in his statement yesterday, about what exoneration means, about what obstruction of justice is, and about all kinds of things. Also, what happened in the Israeli elections, and how can Biden be stopped. Give a listen. Source

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0:00.0

Welcome to the commentary magazine podcast today is Thursday, May 30, 2019.

0:29.8

I'm John Puthhord. It's the editor of commentary with me as always senior editor A Greenwald

0:34.6

hi A. Hi John. Associate editor No Rothman. Hi Noah. Hello John. And in Washington,

0:40.1

senior writer Christine Rosen. Hi Christine. Hi John. So guys, well, we got nothing to

0:45.0

talk about right? Nothing. So Bob Mueller, the panel council came out, I sort of gave

0:52.5

it an eight or nine minute speech and that said nothing new. So the question was why

1:02.0

we give it and what was the purpose and of course, I think the answer is that he wished to

1:07.1

emphasize a couple of points from his 400 page report so that the only voice interpreting

1:15.7

it was not so far the only voice interpreting it is Attorney General Bill Bars and so

1:22.6

he wanted to make his own points about what was important and aside from saying that the

1:28.5

Russians, you know, worked to hack us and that was really bad. He explicitly said if he

1:34.8

could have exonerated the president, he would have exonerated the president and he couldn't

1:40.7

that he was not permitted under Department of Justice guidelines to study the question of

1:49.1

whether or not the president had violated the law but that it was important to examine

1:56.5

the issue of obstruction while people's memories remained fresh and so that the fact pattern

2:01.9

could be established. Though for what purpose it is unclear, it was to be established if he

2:08.3

could not be if he could not be indicted and then said but there's a process other than indictment

2:18.3

to deal with potential crimes. So effectively leaving in the air the question of whether or

2:27.1

not what he had spent two years doing or the part of the investigation that looked into

2:31.8

obstruction was to provide information to Congress that Congress could then use potentially

2:38.6

in an impeachment inquiry. Now this is of interest to me in this one way which is since when does

2:46.9

the executive branch work to establish an investigative pattern for the legislative branch?

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