Well, hello, everyone. I'm James Dobson, and you're listening to Family Talk, a listener-supported ministry.

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Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. Today we're continuing Dr. James Dobson's classic interview with the late Diane Pasnow about her book called feminism, mystique or mistake.

Diane passed away earlier this year, this past April at the age of 79. Prior to that, she met Dr. Dobson when she served as focus on the family's

first female vice president for over 27 years. Now, in part one of their conversation, Diane

shared her own journey from embracing feminism as a student at UCLA in the 1960s to questioning

its core assumptions. She explained how what began as a Christian movement,

advocating for basic women's rights,

had transformed into something very different,

something that often dismisses the value of motherhood and marriage

while promoting an agenda that can often leave women feeling confused and unfulfilled.

Today we're going to hear the rest of this important conversation, but first,

let's listen in now as Dr. Dobson sets the stage for today's discussion. We're going to hear the

second half of an interview that is controversial and that other programs might not be willing

to talk about or deal with. This one focuses on the subject of the

women's movement and a book that was written by Diane Pasno called Feminism Mystique or Mistake.

And in that book and on this program, she shared her view of the modern feminist movement in a very critical way and how it has really failed women.

You know, truth is unity.

And when you get it right, there will not be a contradiction within it because it all comes from the Creator himself.

And I think there are principles in the scriptures that we need to look at before we swallow

all of the ideas and concepts that came along in the late 60s and 70s and are still

very much with us today, having to do with the roles of women

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