You're listening to Family Talk, the radio broadcasting division of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I am that James Dobson, and I'm so pleased that you've joined us today.

Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. You know, a few topics in our culture generate as much heated debate as feminism. You know, in fact, the very mention of the word can spark a passionate response from both sides. But what does feminism actually mean in today's world? Has it stayed true to its original mission of equality, or has it evolved

into something entirely different? These are important questions to consider, because the answers

profoundly affect how we understand marriage, family, and the role of women in society. Dr. Dobson

has some thoughts on why this conversation matters so much.

It is true that many people, male and female, can become very emotional and maybe even angry when the issue of feminism is raised. Just what does that term mean anymore? Does it refer to equality or to the legality of abortion and the right to contraception or abortifacients? Is feminism truly about freedom or is it about forcing women into a certain mold that feminists have created in recent years?

There's been a lot of controversy around this topic, and these questions about it can be highly charged.

This is a subject that affects the family in dramatic ways.

The future of the family, I think, and therefore all of civilization, is dependent to some degree on whether or not we can get this issue straightened out because the role that women play is critical to the stability of the culture because of the

importance of the family. So I invited my great friend, Diane Pasnow, to come to the studio to

discuss her book, Feminism, Mistake or Mistake. Well, today on Family Talk, we're going to be

revisiting Dr. Dobson's classic conversation with the late Diane Pasnow, who passed away earlier this

year at the age of 79. For over 27 years, Diane served as Focus on the Family's first female

vice president, where she helped

shape the ministry's theological direction and correspondence department. A graduate of UCLA and a

gifted author, Diane brought both personal experience and biblical wisdom to these challenging

questions. In her book called feminism, mystique or mistake, Diane traces how a movement that began with Christian principles gradually shifted away from its biblical foundations.

Her insights remain remarkably relevant today as families continue wrestling with these same issues.

So let's listen in now as Dr. Dobson welcomes his longtime friend and colleague for this important discussion.

Diane, all I can say, it's about time you came by for a visit. Thank you. It is a pleasure to

be able to talk to you. We've sat in meetings together hour upon hour upon hour. And now you've written in this book,

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