What Happened to the Princes in the Tower, with Philippa Langley

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

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🗓️ 19 December 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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The most unforgivable crime in Richard III has to be when the king orders the murder of his two young nephews, Edward and Richard. But what if Richard III was framed? Philippa Langley is the amateur historian whose commitment to righting a historical wrong led to the discovery of Richard III’s remains a decade ago. Langley wasn’t a scholar—she was a screenwriter and a member of the Richard III Society. But she had become certain that Richard was the victim of Tudor propaganda, and that Shakespeare’s play had a key role in the slander. Langley convinced academic historians and archaeologists at the University of Leicester to excavate the parking lot where she believed Richard was buried. Those experts did find a body, and DNA analysis confirmed that the remains belonged to Richard III. That discovery led to further insights about the historical Richard. The physical deformities of Shakespeare’s character were Tudor inventions. Far from being a “bunch-backed toad,” the real Richard III had nothing more than a case of scoliosis. Since discovering the body in 2012, Philippa Langley and a team of collaborators have worked on cleaning up Richard’s reputation. Her new book, The Princes in the Tower, examines Richard’s most famous alleged crime: the murder of his two nephews, the sons of Edward IV. Investigating their disappearance as a 500-year-old cold case, Langley uncovers evidence that the princes survived Richard III’s reign… and points to another suspect for their eventual deaths. Langley talks with Barbara Bogaev about tracking down two of history's most famous missing persons. Philippa Langley's new book, The Princes in the Tower: Solving History’s Greatest Cold Case, is out now from Pegasus Books. From the Shakespeare Unlimited podcast series. Published December 19, 2023. © Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. This episode was produced by Matt Frassica. Garland Scott is the associate producer. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster. Ben Lauer is the web producer. Leonor Fernandez edits our transcripts. We had technical help from Voice Trax West in Studio City, California. Final mixing services provided by Clean Cuts at Three Seas, Inc.

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0:00.0	The most unforgivable crime in Richard III has to be when the king orders the murder of his two young nephews.
0:07.6	Shall I be plain? I wish the bastards dead. I would have it suddenly performed.
0:13.7	But what if Richard was framed?
0:25.7	From the Fulcher Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited.
0:27.9	I'm Michael Whitmore, the Folger director.
0:33.0	Philippa Langley is an amateur historian whose commitment to writing a historical wrong led to the discovery of Richard the Third's remains a decade ago.
0:38.9	Langley wasn't a scholar. She was a screenwriter and a member of the Richard the Third Society. But she had become certain
0:44.1	that Richard was the victim of Tudor propaganda and that Shakespeare's play had a key role
0:49.1	in the slander. Langley convinced academic historians and archaeologists at the University of Leicester
0:55.0	to excavate the parking lot where she believed Richard was buried.
0:59.0	Those experts did find a body and DNA analysis confirmed that the remains belonged to Richard III.
1:07.0	That discovery led to further insights about the historical Richard.
1:11.5	The physical deformities of Shakespeare's character were Tudor inventions.
1:16.5	Far from being a bunchback's toad, the real Richard III had nothing more than a case of scoliosis.
1:23.4	Since discovering the body in 2012, Philippa Langley and a team of collaborators have worked on cleaning up Richard's reputation.
1:30.8	Her new book, The Princes in the Tower, examines Richard's most famous alleged crime,
1:36.3	the murder of his two nephews, the sons of Edward IV.
1:40.3	Investigating their disappearance as a 500-year-old cold case, Langley uncovers evidence that the princes survived Richard the Third's reign.
1:49.0	Here's Philippa Langley in conversation with Barbara Bogave.
1:53.0	This new investigation into the fate of the two nephews of Richard the Third, grew out of your discovery of Richard
2:01.7	the Third's remains, and I understand the link is dental records. So tell us about that. How did the
2:07.7	Lost King lead to the missing princes project? Right, yes, it was actually at the re-burial of Richard
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