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The Lawfare Podcast

What Happened at the UN General Assembly Session, with Richard Gowan

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🗓️ 29 September 2022

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This week marked the end of the 77th session of the UN General Assembly, an annual event that brings world leaders together in New York and often serves as both a forum for and a barometer of international politics. This year's session was particularly notable, both because it was the first in-person session since the onset of the global coronavirus pandemic and because it was the first session since what many see as the greatest crisis in the United Nations history: Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 

To learn more about what went down at the UNGA, Lawfare senior editor Scott R. Anderson sat down with Richard Gowan, the UN director for the International Crisis Group. They discussed how the Ukraine conflict shaped events at the session, how major powers like China and the United States responded, and what it might all mean for the future of both the conflict in Ukraine and the United Nations itself. 

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:34.0

In addition to food security, he talked about what the US is trying to do to fight climate

0:39.1

change.

0:40.1

He was able to reference his domestic success in getting climate change related legislation

0:45.1

through Congress.

0:47.2

And he really tried to frame Washington as the power that is working to uphold the multilateral

0:55.6

system across a whole range of issues in addition to Ukraine.

1:01.3

And as I say, that did mean that it felt like a very bulky speech and there were references

1:06.7

to the US funding a small modular nuclear plant in Romania that just felt a bit random.

1:14.6

But nonetheless, I think the overall message came across which is, you know, the US isn't

1:20.2

in retreat in the international system, the US is actually propping up large parts of

1:26.2

the the U.N. machinery.

1:29.3

I'm Scott R. Anderson and this is the LawFair podcast for September 29, 2022.

1:35.1

This week marked the end of the 77th session of the U.N. General Assembly, an annual event

1:40.0

that brings world leaders together in New York and often serves as both a forum for and

1:44.4

a barometer of international politics.

1:47.6

This year's session was particularly notable, both because it was the first in-person session

1:51.9

since the onset of the global coronavirus pandemic and because it was the first session since

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