Hey listeners, welcome back to that triathlon show.

Today's short form episode is a preview of Thursday's interview with Gordo Burn.

Gordo was an investment banker.

He turned that career into a professional triathlon career, and he retired from that career

quite some time ago, but he's coaching, he's a great writer about traathlon and other topics, great

thinker, and he's somebody I really enjoyed chatting with. And in this clip that you'll hear,

Gorda talks about the main mistakes. He and the other professional triathletes from that time

in the, let's say, 15, 20 years ago time frame that they would be making in training and he follows that up with a

discussion on how to manage load and make training stress adaptive rather than maladaptive

tips for for everybody that you can use in your own training and your own life one super

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And now on to the clip with Gordo Bern.

Maybe in today's day and age, we kind of get too overly focused on optimizing rather than

just getting the work done. Do you think that that rings true to use?

Yeah. So that's, well, if I talked about,

my main training partner was a guy called Kloss Burling in Sweden. And when we, when Klaus and I talk,

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