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What Gold Tells Us About the FUTURE of Our Economy

Ken McElroy Show

Ken McElroy

Education, Business News, Business, Investing, News

4.7712 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Ken & Danille McElroy sit down with Keith Weiner, CEO of Monetary Metals, for a provocative conversation about gold’s true role in a collapsing monetary system. From the end of Bretton Woods to the rise of Bitcoin and the global shift away from the U.S. dollar, Weiner explains why the final crisis may come when gold stops bidding on the dollar.

To read the article mentioned in the is podcast follow this link: https://www.monetary-metals.com/insights/articles/when-gold-backwardation-becomes-permanent/


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Keith, good to have you all the way from Dubai.

0:05.6

I think a lot of people are wondering, you know, about gold itself.

0:09.1

So how do you look at gold?

0:10.6

Do you look at it as like an inflation hedge, a soft haven, a store of value?

0:15.1

So when you look at gold, how do you see it?

0:17.3

You know, it's kind of all the above.

0:20.2

But, you know, I have to preface my remarks by

0:22.6

saying that I'm somewhat of a contrarian guy, and my views don't necessarily fit the standard,

0:29.6

you know, view in a lot of these things. I break down, you know, people define inflation roughly

0:34.6

as, you know, rising prices. And a lot of the cause of rising prices is

0:40.3

non-monetary. You know, if we have tariffs, for example, that's going to cause prices to go up.

0:44.8

If we, you know, have regulatory issues or we make energy more expensive with green energy

0:51.2

policies, all these things can, you know, make crisis skyrocket,

0:55.0

but they're not monetary. And therefore, the price of gold isn't necessarily going to respond.

1:00.1

And then a lot of people, usually the anti-gold people say, see, you know, I told you,

1:03.7

gold's not an inflation hedge. Yeah, gold responds to monetary debasement, but not necessarily

1:08.9

non-monetary in rising prices.

1:11.6

When people say safe haven, usually I think what they're referring to is something you can put your money that isn't going to go down and price when other things go down.

1:20.6

And certainly of late, gold has been behaving that way, but not always.

1:25.6

You know, gold price is a two-directional market.

1:28.9

It can go down, and it's easy to forget that in times of extreme bullishness.

1:33.2

Now, I don't think the sentiment is extreme bullishness in gold right now,

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