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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

What Does Putin Want Now? - with Fred Kagan

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Politics, Hamas, Society, News, War, Israel, News Commentary, October 7, Geopolitics, Palestine, Government

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

What are his objectives at this point in his war against Ukraine? And what are Ukraine’s objectives? What are US objectives? After all, the goals of different leaders in wartime often evolve based on battlefield developments. Are objectives shifting right now before our eyes…for Putin, Zelensky, and the US and NATO? And has the likelihood that Putin would use a limited nuclear strike changed as his objectives have evolved? To help us think all this through, military analyst and historian Fred Kagan returns to the podcast. Fred is the director of the American Critical Threats Project at the American Enterprise Institute and a former professor of military history at West Point, where he taught for ten years. His books include Lessons for a Long War and End of the Old Order: Napoleon and Europe, 1801-1805. He also regularly briefs and advises senior US military commanders. Fred earned his PhD in Russian and Soviet military history at Yale University. He is fluent in Russian. To follow Fred Kagan’s work, the easiest way to do that is to go to AEI.org And the report we discuss on this episode – “Russian General Officer Guide” can be found here: https://tinyurl.com/3e8bzrex

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A scenario that I am concerned about is that he will annex large portions of Ukraine

0:07.1

announce that Russian nuclear doctrine, you know, supporting the use of nuclear weapons and

0:12.0

defensive attacks on Russian territory applies to the annexed terrain and then either therefore say explicitly or imply that continued counter-offensives will trigger nuclear attack hoping to stop continued

0:26.8

counter-offensives.

0:28.6

That's the likeliest scenario that I see right now for what would be a threat followed possibly by actual use of a nuclear weapon

0:35.6

in Ukraine.

0:36.9

And it worries me a lot. What does Putin want now?

0:43.0

What are his objectives at this point in his war against Ukraine?

0:56.0

And what are Ukraine's objectives?

0:58.0

And what are the objectives of the United States and Europe?

1:02.0

After all, the goals of different leaders in war of the United States and Europe.

1:03.0

After all, the goals of different leaders in wartime often evolved based on battlefield

1:07.2

developments.

1:08.2

In 1939, Britain went to war to defend Polish independence from Nazi aggression.

1:14.8

But the objective changed, among other things it became a war to topple Hitler and bring down

1:19.6

the Nazi regime.

1:21.1

Or consider how much America's war objectives in that war, had changed from 1941,

1:27.0

retaliating for Pearl Harbor and trying to contain Japan's expansionism in Asia, but by 1945 America's objectives in World War II had changed

1:36.6

a lot.

1:38.4

Our objectives shifting right now before our eyes for Putin, Zolensky, and the US and NATO, and has the likelihood

1:45.8

that Putin would use a limited nuclear strike changed as these objectives have

1:51.0

evolved. To help us think through all of this is military

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