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🗓️ 1 July 2025
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0:00.0 | Hey, it's Flora Lichtenen, and you're listening to Science Friday. |
0:06.7 | Today in the show, AI chatbot companions, friend or foe? |
0:13.1 | I think the upsurge of companion shopbots is a mirror for what we really want, which is connections with other people. |
0:26.6 | AI isn't just for punching up that email or coming up with new recipe ideas. |
0:31.6 | Increasingly people are turning to AI chatbots for companionship. |
0:35.6 | And I just want to give you a little snapshot of this. So the most |
0:39.2 | popular companion chatbot on the market, replica, is free to download. You log in, you're given |
0:45.8 | some choices of pre-made avatars, you pick one, they appear on a screen within a room, and they start |
0:52.1 | a conversation with you, a chat conversation. |
0:54.9 | And if you want more from your companion, you can upgrade to a paid version and tweak their |
1:00.6 | personality to be more confident or more caring. Or you can upgrade to do activities together, like |
1:07.1 | watch movies or co-write poetry. Or you can upgrade them from friend to boyfriend or girlfriend. |
1:14.9 | Some half a billion people worldwide have downloaded these companion chatbots, but are they helping to |
1:22.3 | alleviate the loneliness epidemic, or are they fueling it? Are they safe for kids and teens? |
1:28.3 | Joining me now to explore these questions and more are my guests. David Adam is a London-based |
1:33.3 | science reporter who recently wrote about the effect of AI companions on mental health for |
1:37.8 | Nature magazine, and Rose Ginrich is a psychology and human AI interaction researcher at Princeton University. Thanks for coming on Science |
1:45.6 | Friday. Hey, thank you. Happy to be here. How is the AI companion chatbot different from something |
1:53.1 | like chat GPT? Yeah, so companion chatbots are generative AI chatbots that are specifically |
1:59.7 | designed for their relational and conversational ability. |
2:04.7 | For example, Replica back in 2023 was based off GPT3's model and adapted for conversational ability. |
2:14.1 | Now, Replica is based on its own model, but these chatbots are aim to be companions. |
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