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Hi, I'm Jim Denison with Denison Forum.

Thanks so much for being a part of this today, for listening to this conversation and

to this podcast.

I've been writing in recent days on racism specifically with regard to the shooting of

Ahmad Arbery. The tragedy occurred last February, but only in recent days on racism specifically with regard to the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery. The tragedy

occurred last February, but only in recent days has it achieved the kind of publicity, the kind of

of leverage that it should have had across all these weeks and months. And so I'm trying to speak

into this really on two levels. First of all, to help people

understand the reality of the situation, to understand the reality of this issue. So many white

Americans like myself would like to believe that this issue is no longer as real as it used to be.

They'd like to say that because of civil rights legislation, because of progress that we've made,

this just isn't the issue that people like I think it is. So that's the one piece. And then the second piece is the question people have, what can I do about this? What difference can I make? And so I'm trying to speak into this, write on this, do everything I can in these days to try to be a biblical voice into this issue. So as I was thinking about trying to help people that are listening to this podcast and reading what I'm writing these days, understand the reality of this issue. So as I was thinking about trying to help people that are listening to this podcast

and reading what I'm writing these days, understand the reality of this situation, I immediately

wanted to have a conversation with my very dear friend Tyrone Johnson. Tyrone and I've been

working together for more than 20 years. He was the worship leader when I was pastor at Park

City's Baptist Church in Dallas. He and I've remained friends

over these years. Tyrone has led worship on our study tours in Israel more than 10 times, I guess, Tyrone now. We are neighbors. We live in the same community in North Dallas. And just to put it bluntly, I love him. He is my brother. He is one of my dearest friends. He's one of the most brilliant, one of the most anointed people that I know. He has a remarkable individual in a variety of levels. He has an

undergraduate degree in accounting from Dillard University in New Orleans, has a master's in

biblical studies from Dallas Baptist University, and yet he's a world-class musician.

As I've often said to Tyrone, how can you be an accountant and a musician? I don't

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