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You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians

What Do We Think About The Word "Jazz?" - #167

You'll Hear It: Full Album Deep Dives with Jazz Musicians

Peter Martin

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🗓️ 30 July 2018

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Today Peter and Adam try not to skirt around a somewhat controversial subject: the word "jazz". See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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0:00.0

I'm Adam Ennis, and I'm Peter Martin.

0:15.7

And you're listening to the You'll Hear podcast.

0:17.5

Daily jazz advice coming at you.

0:19.2

Daily jazz advice coming at you. You know advice coming at you. Now that's interesting

0:21.9

because today we're talking about the word jazz. Oh, that's right. Are we going to be able to skirt

0:27.2

this for yet another day? I don't know. We have a question from one of our listeners, I believe, right?

0:31.7

I hate controversy. Yeah, no, we have a question from our loyal listener, Joe. What's up, Joe?

0:36.9

Yep, Joe is a good dude and and he writes in... The great state of Texas, I believe. That's right. Yep. He writes, I'd like to know what you guys think about the word jazz. You've skirted the topic before, but I just watched Miles ahead and mentioned Miles saying that jazz was a made-up word. It's social music. Nicholas Payton calls it black American music. What do you think? Well, Miles ahead. That was the Don Chito movie, right?

1:00.0

Okay, first of all, that's not a documentary.

1:02.0

No. Although I do think that Miles probably spoke about this in his autobiography with Quincy Troupe.

1:08.0

That would probably be, you know, really the place to go to see what

1:11.6

he said about that or some interviews and things like that. So we should be careful just about these kind of, that's not even a docu drama, is it? Is that what it's considered? I think it's pretty Hollywood-ized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, it brings up, you know, an interesting point. And I think, you know, I don't know, until recently,

1:28.8

I didn't know a lot about the history of the word jazz. To me, you know, words are powerful

1:33.9

and meaningful, and everybody brings a different perception. And I think that when we're in a

1:39.0

multicultural environment, which is basically what the world is, most parts of the world,

1:43.8

as it should be.

1:45.0

We need to understand these things and bring some sensitivity to this. And I think that most people,

1:50.4

you know, the good things about jazz is to most people, musicians or not, certainly non-musicians.

1:58.3

It has a very positive connotation now, I think. People think, I mean, the most negative thing is like, that's some weird, complicated music that I have to study and you have to go to school to learn how to play. Right, right. That it's like a nerd thing would be the only maybe negative. But a lot of the controversy of the word is based upon the entomology of the word and the origins of it. Yeah.

2:22.5

So, and then to me, I probably bring it, it may be similar to you and a lot of musicians of our generation, the connotation of the word is such a beautiful thing because it represents

2:27.2

the culture of this music that we love so much, the musicians, the music, most importantly,

2:32.0

the lineage of it, you know, everything that it's brought, you know, to my life. So I see it as a very positive thing. Now, when you start to dig deeper, you can kind of start to be like, ugh, yeah, maybe. Yeah, it's definitely a weird word from a weird time that was, you know, kind of put upon a sound of music that was, you know, in a weird way. But it's kind of one of those things that's like now it's been so long and it's been around that, you know, everybody just kind of accepted it. To me, whenever I hear the word, I think of the sound. That's all I think of. I don't, and I think that's the way with a lot of words, you know, that probably have positive and negative connotations is you just think of it in the context of your lifetime.

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