Good Players Copy, Great Players Steal - #166

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Peter Martin

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🗓️ 27 July 2018

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Today, we talk about jazz theft and how important it is to your development. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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0:00.0	I'm Adamanus.
0:16.7	And I'm Peter Martin.
0:17.9	And this is the You'll Hearup podcast.
0:19.5	Daily Jazz advice coming at you.
0:21.1	Coming at you all day, every day. Wait, not all day. No, once a day. Once a day. Five days. Well, last week we did two and one day. That was interesting. We did do two in one day. We had our webinar, so we did a little special bonus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then yesterday we did a list of 10, which is wild.
0:19.5	That was crazy.
0:20.4	Have you recovered from that?
0:21.4	I didn't sleep last night.
0:22.7	I got a... We did a little special. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then yesterday we did a list of 10, which is wild.
0:38.2	That was crazy.
0:39.1	Have you recovered from that? I didn't sleep last night. I got to be honest. Well, that was the four Iced Americanos that you consumed. But, yeah. What do we got going on today? So today we're going to talk about, well, I gave this the title. I didn't even okay it with my partner here, Adam, but hopefully you'll be agreeable to this.
0:39.1	Good players copy. about, well, I gave this the title. I didn't even okay it with my partner here, Adam, but hopefully you'll be agreeable to this.
0:57.4	Good players copy, great players steal.
0:59.8	Yeah, that's absolutely true.
1:01.0	Okay, you'll hear it.
1:04.5	So this is, you know, I don't know who first said this.
1:07.0	I know it's been attributed to, well, I kind of adapted to players part, but like good artists copy, great artist, steel, I think was Picasso, supposedly, and Stravinsky. But you know, a lot of times it's misattribution and everything. I mean, it was probably happening with the French monks who invented the notation system. You know what I mean? It was like, it's, that's a, that's a platitude that is worth repeating throughout history for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I think that the idea here is, I look at it a couple of ways. The first way is maybe not the typical way, but that is that when you're good and you're not great yet, like you're still developing as you develop, you copy. So like, you know, in in the jazz idiom we would typically see that in
1:45.8	terms of learning solos copying specific licks copying certain styles of playing especially on your
1:52.1	specific instrument even copying the way somebody dresses and and acts like depending on how big of a
1:57.8	personality they are and then you think okay once you get to be
2:01.2	great and fully developed you're not going to copy anymore but that's when you actually get
2:05.2	confident enough to just straight out steal from other people but i think what it is is you're not
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