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He Said, She Said

What Do We Really Want Our Next Baby to be… Boy or Girl?

He Said, She Said

Staying Relevant Productions

Parenting, Kids & Family, Ryan Libbey, Made In Chelsea, Fertility, Therapy, Surrogacy, Babies, He Said She Said, Lifestyle, Sam Thompson, Staying Relevant, Relationships, Pete Wicks, Relationship, Louise Thompson, Kids, Society & Culture

4.3888 Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Louise and Ryan kick things off with a simple question, would they want a boy or a girl next? But their answers reveal something deeper, opening up a conversation about the quiet fears of parenting in a world shaped by the manosphere and everything kids are exposed to online.


That leads into screen time, boundaries, and the looming question every parent faces… what happens when your child asks for a phone? Their take might surprise you...


Plus, Louise shares why she chose to go sober, and a listener question about surrogacy uncovers something unexpected… was Ryan always sure he wanted kids?


00:00 Intro

00:40 Leo's Challenging Behavior Phase

10:53 What Will Leo Be Like When He Grows Up?

12:00 Do we want a boy or girl next?

12:55 The Manosphere and Raising Respectful Men

17:29 The Fear of Having a daughter

20:26 When Will Leo Get a Phone?

22:55 Screen Time and Parenting Challenges

48:02 Louise's Sobriety Journey

1:00:20 Ryan originally didn't want children

1:02:17 Looking Ahead in our surrogacy journey


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0:00.0

Howdy?

0:01.4

Oh, howdy purple trowl.

0:05.0

Your taulette flannel trow?

0:07.0

Not fucking towelette.

0:08.2

We've got quite fruities there.

0:09.4

Look at me with my animal.

0:10.6

I come alive in the spring.

0:12.6

You know that.

0:13.5

I'm a colourful little bean.

0:15.2

You are.

0:16.6

So we survived the bank holiday down in Devon with your family.

0:21.1

We did three full nights.

0:22.7

Yeah, I say just actually.

0:23.7

I am having a flare up now.

0:25.1

That's what happens when I go down to Devon.

0:27.4

It was nice, though.

0:28.1

Nice to be down by the seaside.

0:30.2

Took Leo down and thought that it was going to be good for a little behavioural training

0:36.3

with his female cousins who he doesn't see

0:38.7

quite as often. They're very good with him, actually. They're very good with him, but he was not

0:43.7

so good with them. I think what we need to drill into him is that he's only allowed to wrestle

0:49.7

certain people. And that's you. Who else is it? No, just me. Just you. Maybe like your brother and your dad. No, but that's the problem you see. Not girls. He's not allowed to be rough with girls. Like, he's started now doing it with me. He's like hanging off my neck. Yeah, it's not, I don't want to put the blame on anyone, but I just know that when we were down in Devon obviously he's seeing my nieces his cousins

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