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Welcome to the commentary magazine daily podcast.

Today is Monday, June 20th, 2022. I'm John Pott, where it's the editor of commentary magazine, which me as always executive editor, a pre-mold high a John and associate editor, no, we're off on high knowa hi John.

Okay, a lot of interesting tidbits we can discuss about the January 6th hearings, the condition of the Democratic and Republican parties as they head into 2024.

But we have this very sobering or interesting factoid or contradictory factoids from polling by ABC and Ipsos.

So the headline is 60% of people think that Trump should be indicted based on what has come out of January 6th.

61 or 60% or something like that. It's like, uh-oh, whoa, this, this, this, these hearings are really making their case, right? They're really making their case.

Then the polling also reveals that only 9% of the respondents are paying close attention to the hearings.

So, uh, they are, you have everybody who doesn't like Trump saying he should be indicted, but in fact, the hearings are not lighting the country on fire.

And people aren't really paying attention. How do we

resolve these? Doesn't that suggest that, um, uh, they're just answering the question based on the way they feel of Metro or whatever, or whatever.

How do you square it? Because that poll it's all right. The poll and the poll itself had been asking this question prior and this is the highest resulted it gotten in a year on that question.

Okay, but.

Well, you don't have to force like why would what would it get a lower number? I mean, if you go lower number, that has been, yes, presumably, no,

a chance for your question, presumably, yes, because that number started high in the immediate wake of January 6th, and then has been receding ever since.

So for it to bounce back up does seem to suggest that current events would be influencing public opinion.

Yeah, I don't, I don't find it hard to square it to be honest because you don't have to pay close attention in order to find out what the headlines are and then say, oh, that's a bad headline.

We shouldn't die Trump.

Okay, fair enough. So.

So let's drop that and say.

And what I'm struck by is that for the first time I think since 9 11, since the 9 11 commission, the networks are carrying this live like all, all the broadcast now I know no one watches broadcast networks anymore, but.

They're all carrying it live. It's not just was just the opening hearing and prime time. It is being treated as though it is a an earthquake and national event.

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