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Welcome to the Commentary Magazine Daily podcast today is Friday, June 17, 2022.

I'm John Pajor, it's the editor of Commentary Magazine, which me as always executive editor

A. Greenwald, hi A. Hi John, associate editor, no, Rothman, high knowa, and joining us today

longtime commentary contributor, tablet columnist and author of the best selling new book

secret city, which we will talk about later Jamie Kurchick. Hi Jamie, welcome to the podcast.

Sorry, sorry, thank you for having me John. Pleasure. So, I guess we've been having our,

we'll start with the January 6th hearings yesterday, which were a chalk a block with every

reason why you should look at Trump and the Trump Maga team, electoral resistance machine

with horror and disgust and at the lunacy, the madness, the ugliness, the anti-nominism,

every aspect of the details surrounding what they tried to do in the days leading up to

January 6th and on January 6th is intellectually, emotionally, politically, ideologically

and morally invalidated and invalidating. That said, this hearing, both known I think

punches a real hole in the narrative that the committee itself wants to promulgate about

what happened on January 6th, a narrative that is promulgating because it is attempting

to build a criminal case for the Justice Department to prosecute Donald Trump with and

that requires making the claim that there was an organized and determined conspiracy with

Trump at the head of it. Noah, why do you think yesterday's hearing punches a hole in

that narrative? Well, it's centered a lot around Dr. Eastman and his pretty hair, that's

John Eastman, the Lama, the Lama, the St. Louis, the Claremont Institute affiliated.

By the way, I know John Eastman, I've known him for 25 years and I'm now going to say something

really ugly, so put your fingers in your ears. He is a fucking moron. He is one of the most

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