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Leading Saints Podcast

What Do Men Need From Elders Quorum? | An Interview with Mark Bell

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Mark Bell has over 20 years of experience as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT), and has trained in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) and Accelerated Resolution Therapy (ART). Mark specializes in helping couples navigate relational and emotional intimacy challenges and much of his work is with men struggling with sexually compulsive behaviors, along with their loved ones affected by those behaviors. He focuses on healthy connections with ourselves, our God, and others in healing.

Mark holds a graduate degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of Southern Mississippi and an undergraduate degree from Brigham Young University, and works at the Arizona Family Institute (AFI) where he is also the clinical director. In the Church he has served as a missionary in the Chile, Santiago North mission, a Young Men advisor, Sunday School youth teacher, high priest group leader, scoutmaster, ward clerk, elders quorum counselor, and three times as a bishopric counselor. Mark and his wife Dyan have been married 22 years and have five sons.


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Highlights
Mark Bell shares his insights on the current state of men's mental health, noting a concerning epidemic of undiagnosed depression among men, which often goes unrecognized due to societal expectations that discourage vulnerability. He explains how men frequently resort to unhealthy coping mechanisms, such as pornography, as a means of escaping deeper emotional struggles. The discussion touches on the stigma surrounding these behaviors and the need for men to connect with one another in meaningful ways. Bell advocates for the creation of supportive environments, such as small group settings within church activities, where men can openly share their experiences and challenges without fear of judgment.

The episode also explores the significance of recreational activities in fostering connections among men, suggesting that engaging in shared experiences can lead to deeper bonds and healthier emotional outlets. Bell emphasizes the necessity of creating spaces where men can be both playful and serious, allowing them to express their true selves, and offers practical advice for church leaders—particularly elders quorum presidents—on how to facilitate genuine connections among members, encouraging vulnerability and open dialogue. The conversation is a call to action for men in elders quorum to seek connection and support, ultimately promoting better mental health and stronger relationships within their communities.

02:30 - Men's Mental Health Epidemic
04:00 - Undiagnosed Depression in Men
05:30 - The Link Between Depression and Suicide
07:00 - Challenges of Masculinity
09:00 - Compartmentalization of Men's Emotions
10:30 - Hidden Depression in Men
12:00 - Pornography as a Symptom
13:30 - The Need for Healthy Coping Mechanisms
15:00 - Stigma Around Men's Behaviors
16:30 - The Importance of Connection Among Men
18:00 - Creating Safe Spaces for Men
19:30 - The Fist of Five Concept
21:00 - The Role of Group Therapy
22:30 - Building Connection in Elders Quorum
24:00 - The Power of Vulnerability
25:30 - Check-Ins as a Tool for Connection
27:00 - The Importance of Confidentiality

Transcript

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0:00.0

How do you help someone tell their spouse that they have secretly been viewing pornography?

0:07.1

Wow, these are tough situations.

0:09.8

Thankfully, one of my favorite and most effective therapist, Jeff Struer,

0:13.8

put together a presentation about disclosing betrayal.

0:17.4

Jeff explains how disclosing betrayal can make recovery and repentance so much more difficult if it isn't handled correctly.

0:25.3

This isn't a rip the Band-Aid off quickly type of situation.

0:28.5

With a better understanding of betrayal, church leaders can be a strong resource in helping couples navigate the awful effects of pornography usage.

0:36.8

You can watch Jeff's entire presentation

0:38.7

at no cost in the Liberating Saints virtual library. Simply go to leadingsaints.org

0:43.8

slash 14, and you can sign up for 14 days of free access to Jeff's presentation and the

0:49.6

entire library. It's one of my favorite interviews.

1:01.5

I would be rude if I didn't take the time to explain to the newer listeners what Leading Saints is. Here goes. Leading Saints is an organization that started as a hobby blog

1:07.0

in 2010 and then really caught some traction in 2014 when the podcast started.

1:12.9

We talk about all things leadership in the context of the Church of Jesus Christ

1:16.6

of Latter-day Saints.

1:17.8

We aren't owned by the church, but we have a great relationship with them and always

1:21.3

aim to be faith-promoting, even though we talk about the tough topics.

1:25.5

My name is Kurt Frankum.

1:26.7

I'm generally the voice you hear as the host of

1:29.1

the podcast. I've tried to get other hosts, but people demand my smooth tone. And I really enjoy it.

1:35.3

Check out LeadingSaints.org to really get into the weeds of what Leading Saints is and learn

1:40.0

all about our mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead.

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