I'm Charlie Sikes. Welcome back to the To the Contrary podcast. The Strait of Hormuz is still closed, apparently.

Trump is still at war with the Pope. And even though he's apparently, is scheduled to be part of a marathon Bible reading, which will probably be the first time that Donald Trump has seen some of that.

We have a lot to talk about, but we don't know, a lot that we do know.

Let's go.

Well, what a way to kick off the week with our good friend Tom Nichols, the professor, staff

writer for The Atlantic Magazine.

How are you, Tom? How are you this on this

beautiful Monday, Tuesday morning? It's, it's Monday, it's cold, at least here in New England,

and the Strait of Hormuz is either open or closed. Yeah, it is. I'd say that confidently.

It is either open or closed. It is depending on what your

mileage is. Okay, so let me just read you a story that's maybe not totally on your radar screen,

but okay, so I mentioned we were talking about AI before this. And, you know, I'm actually,

you know, wrestling with whether I could create an AI image of either you or me with our heads exploding.

It would be like a good feature where you can actually do it very realistically.

You know, instead of me just going like boom on this, so this would be I would actually use this.

If I actually do create this, I won't do it for you. I'll do it for me.

But if I had an AI image of Tom Nichols with the head exploding, this would be one of

those stories. This is Bloomberg. As measles takes toll on kids, anti-vaxxers have a change

of heart. Katie Jennings was scrolling on her phone last April when a headline stopped her

cold. A second unvaccinated child had died of measles in her home state of Texas. It was a tipping point for the 40-year-old stay-at-home mom who had grown up in a staunchly anti-vaccine fundamentalist Christian community. What are we doing? She remembers thinking, why are we doing this? I want to protect my kids. Again, it's a tragic story, but if only they had been warned.

So now we're seeing them.

The anti-vaxers are going, wait, kids might actually get sick and die if we don't vaccinate them.

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