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To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Kinzinger: How the Next President Can Erase Donald Trump

To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Charlie Sykes

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.9719 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Former Congressman and now children’s book author, Adam Kinzinger, joins Charlie to discuss gerrymandering, the state of Congress, and what should the next President do to make sure there isn't another Trump-style presidency in the future.

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0:00.0

I'm Charlie Sykes. Welcome back to the To the Contrary Podcast. Well, I'm looking at this headline that just dropped in my inbox, this is from the Daily Mail.

0:08.4

Secret Sugar Daddy sex scandal explodes inside Trump's counterterrorism headquarters. Read glamorous senior aides, voracious text messages, itemized trophies, and her utterly shameless justification. And apparently, this woman,

0:23.5

29-year-old woman, has been the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism since May

0:28.5

2025. Why does this keep happening? You know, an administration filled with all the best people.

0:34.9

Okay, so catching up, the Straits of Harm Mouz are still closed. Cash Patel still has his job.

0:41.0

Devin Nunes, however, does not. He managed to lose more than $700 million as the CEO of Trump Media,

0:47.7

which is quite an accomplishment. And Virginia votes to redraw their district lines to give Democrats more seat.

0:55.6

And of course, Donald Trump says that referendum vote was rigged because it's just another day that ends with why.

1:09.4

So joining me to break down everything that's going on, our good friend, former Congressman Adam Kinsinger.

1:16.4

How you doing, Adam?

1:17.6

Hey, brother. We always have some good stuff to talk about.

1:21.1

It's not just because I happen to be on the show.

1:23.9

It's because, like you said, it's a day.

1:25.6

It's a day that exists.

1:26.8

So there's always going to be plenty of insanity. You know, you actually had a really interesting post. I didn't

1:34.1

have it in front of me before, but you had an interesting post on tax day, which I still haven't

1:39.1

quite got my head around, you know, where you wrote, a country where the rules only apply to some

1:43.1

people is not a country. I mean, if you're a working class American who plays by the rules, you pay your taxes, you don't bribe anybody, you don't steal, you don't cheat, and you watch the most powerful man in the country do all of those things and face zero consequences, what does that tell you about the system you've been faithfully working for? What does it tell you when you're paying,

2:01.9

you know, 20% of your income and taxes and Donald Trump and his billionaire buddies pay zero?

2:08.3

And I guess the cognitive dissonance that this is the people's voice, the voice of the forgotten,

2:14.1

you know, man, man, it's a, that is a great, that was just an interesting point.

2:20.8

The people who play by the rules and the contrast to what you're seeing every freaking day.

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