I'm just asked you a final question.

Do you think if we manage to get

say, I don't know, a hundred of the people in this world that are decision-makers,

influencers, top politicians, maybe a few billionaires,

maybe people that run oil companies, maybe these types of people, people in the Republican

Party down here and you know had two weeks of them and five ceremonies and having conversations

and arguments and discussions afterwards do you do you think that could make a

noticeable global change in direction?

Well, I think it's a good place to start.

I don't know if it could do it, you know, finally,

but I think that's a necessary thing it's worthwhile and we should

definitely plan to do that but here's the thing among the spectrum of people like that who were real influencers.

There are some billionaires and you know tech innovators and all kinds of things like that

who are really brilliant people and and the chances are they've already, they are already aware of a

psychedelics, you know, and even, I mean even will tell you if they're honest that psychedelics have been a big influence on their

worldview.

So there's those people and then there I think is another significant portion of that kind of person these

you know corporate and financial overachievers who are basically psychopads or sociopaths or

sociopaths or all of that and I'm not sure psychedelics can even touch them you know because you

have to have an inner self I mean this is the problem with trom you know, people say if we could just get him down here and get him to take Iowasca, I think it would have no effect at all because he is incapable of a self-reflective thought.

You know, with this guy, it's not so much the ego,

I mean, he's got plenty of that, but I think it's the id.

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