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The Playbook Podcast

What Charlie Kirk’s killing tells us about America

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Politics, Government

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

The FBI and top law enforcement officials continue to piece together the events that led to the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk in Utah on Wednesday. In Washington, President Donald Trump and others are cementing the MAGA leader’s legacy, posthumously awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom. And though Trump praised what he said was Kirk’s advocacy for nonviolence, he also told reporters “we have to beat the hell” out of “radical left lunatics.” Tempers are high among his closest confidants and millions of followers. So, where does that energy go now, and can any figure unite a grieving and angry America? Playbook’s Adam Wren and White House reporter Megan Messerly break it down.

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0:00.0

Today on the Playbook podcast, the latest fallout from the killing of Charlie Kirk,

0:11.0

and what this means about the present moment in U.S. politics.

0:16.8

Hello, I'm Adam Wren.

0:18.9

And I'm Megan Messerly. It's Friday, September 12th.

0:22.3

And this is the Playbook podcast. Let's get right to what's driving the day.

0:27.6

Megan, we are still experiencing the shockwaves from Charlie Kirk's death.

0:33.5

What we know when we're recording, as of late Thursday Thursday night is that essentially the public safety officials in Utah and the FBI have what they are saying is, quote, no idea about who did this.

0:50.3

We are still monitoring this.

0:52.7

We know that President Donald Trump awarded posthumously the Medal of Freedom to Charlie Kirk.

0:58.4

We know that the FBI has received the most digital tips since the Boston Marathon bombing.

1:04.7

We're seeing that many lawmakers, including AOC, are canceling their campaign events.

1:13.3

We're seeing threats to historically black colleges and universities. And we're hearing Megan, President Donald Trump himself,

1:19.9

saying, quote, we have to beat the hell, end quote, out of quote, radical left lunatics,

1:25.7

end quote, after Charlie Kirk's killing.

1:29.7

Megan, what do you make of all of this? You're out this morning with some fresh reporting

1:33.7

about how Charlie Kirk influenced a number of White House officials. What do you make of this

1:40.5

moment? One of the MAGA movement's own stars, own leaders, has been killed.

1:47.0

But the Trump administration is really struggling to find the person who did this.

1:52.5

They really are. And I think that really just makes the grieving process so much harder for

1:58.0

those who knew Charlie Kirk well.

2:06.7

I spent the whole day yesterday pretty much talking to folks in the White House,

2:12.6

folks outside the White House, all the way from people who knew Charlie very well and were close friends to people who didn't know him personally or had only met him in passing,

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