What Cadillac learned from running Perez in a 2023 Ferrari
The Race F1 Podcast
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🗓️ 18 November 2025
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
Why Sergio Perez was testing a 2023 Ferrari and the value to the new Cadillac team’s preparations for next year is explained in the latest edition of The Race F1 Podcast.
Glenn Freeman and Ben Anderson join Edd Straw to outline the reasons for the test and what can be got out of running an out-of-date car built by another team.
We also lay out the value of Perez’s experience, and also what to expect from Cadillac in terms of its competitive next year and beyond.
The question of what Perez’s Ferrari future might have been had he not turned his back on its academy to join McLaren in 2013 is also tackled.
In the final part of the podcast, we take on listener questions on topics ranging from Lewis Hamiton’s Ferrari future to first-lap stewarding leniency, and Valtteri Bottas’ contract to Red Bull’s driver decision.
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| 0:00.0 | The Athletic |
| 0:02.0 | The Races |
| 0:02.6 | The Races on, and the new Cadillac team has hit the track, running a 2023 Ferrari is the next step in its preparation to race in F1 next year. |
| 0:20.2 | But how useful is the test really, what value is Sergio Perez bringing with his work |
| 0:24.4 | behind the wheel? |
| 0:25.6 | I'm Ed's draw and joining me to tell all of Ben Anderson and Glenn Freeman. |
| 0:30.2 | For Ben, Sergio Perez recently tested a 2023 Ferrari at Imala, one effectively run by the new Cadillac |
| 0:35.5 | team as part of the buildup to its debut next year. |
| 0:37.9 | How valuable is that unusual move? |
| 0:41.5 | I think it has some limited value for the personnel because there'll be people who need to shake the dust off, the rust off, having not been in F1 for a while. |
| 0:53.2 | Perez himself, in fact, not having |
| 0:55.0 | driven since what December last year for Red Bull in Abu Dhabi. So there's value in that, |
| 1:01.0 | there's value in working together, establishing some relationships on the ground and some |
| 1:06.1 | methodologies, communication, etc. It's a bit like, I guess, a pre-shakedown, shakedown. |
| 1:12.4 | You just get some of those jobs that you need to do and you can only do it, the track, ticked off. |
| 1:18.3 | But it's not like having your own car. So the value kind of runs out. And I'd say it's definitely |
| 1:24.8 | inversely proportional in terms of value compared to how cool it was |
| 1:29.0 | to see a deliveryed black Ferrari with a driver with a black helmet. That has absolutely |
| 1:35.5 | flown on our social media and on our YouTube platform in terms of video. So really, really |
| 1:41.9 | cool to see. So I think for fans of media, probably way more |
| 1:46.0 | valuable than it was actually to Cadillac. Well, Glenn, you must have been excited about that |
| 1:50.3 | with your metaphorical Bring About V10's hat on the Black Ferrari. That's very retro, isn't it? |
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