What Brings You Peace & Fire? Episode # 816
Zen Pop
Todd and Cathy Adams
4.9 • 637 Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Todd and Cathy share the upcoming changes to their podcast, Zen Parenting Radio, which will be renamed Zen POP Parenting starting June 1st! Cathy and Todd discuss what brings you both peace and fire and why your somatic experience (what you feel in your body) is a more authentic guide than overthinking. They unpack what the word miracle really means, challenge narrow ideas of productivity, and share a single word that can help you enjoy life instead of staying stuck.
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0:00 What adds peace and fire?
28:22 A Word for When It’s All Too Much
30:42- Boundaries *
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Pop Culture Meets Mindful Parenting
Todd announced a shift in the focus of Zen Parenting Radio, emphasizing a new direction that integrates pop culture as a primary lens to explore themes of mindfulness, parenting, compassion, and self-awareness. He explained that the show will delve into how pop culture reflects societal values, connects families, and offers insights into personal growth. Starting June 1st, the show will feature updated content, a new title, and a renewed enthusiasm while maintaining its core message about the importance of a parent’s self-understanding for a child’s well-being.
Somatic Awareness and Peaceful Choices
Todd and Sweet discussed two pieces of writing, focusing on the concept of “what adds peace and fire” and the somatic experience of feeling versus thinking. They explored how somatic awareness can guide personal choices, bypassing intellectual considerations to connect with bodily sensations. Todd shared personal examples of peace-inducing activities, including rabbits, walks, and reading, while emphasizing the importance of balancing thinking and feeling in decision-making.
Finding Peace and Productivity
Todd and his partner discuss various ways they find peace and relaxation. Todd mentions driving his Jeep with the top down and a good sound system, which he also uses to help regulate his daughters’ moods. They talk about enjoying nature, such as lilac trees in their backyard and a cardinal that sings daily. The couple also discusses different perspectives on productivity, with Todd’s partner encouraging a broader definition that includes activities like reading or yard work. They reflect on how their different approaches to relaxation and productivity affect each other.
Music’s Personal and Social Impact
The group discussed personal connections to songs, with Todd sharing how “Sweet Baby James” by James Taylor evokes memories of his father, while Tracy highlighted the significance of Tracy Chapman’s music in her life, particularly regarding social justice issues. The conversation then centered on Milt Hold’s song “Quiet,” which was written after experiencing sexual assault and became widely known during the 2016 Women’s March. The song’s powerful performance at a conference left a lasting impact on the group, with its message resonating deeply with themes of personal empowerment and social awareness.
Active Listening and Personal Boundaries
Todd discussed the importance of active listening, emphasizing the need to balance empathy with personal boundaries. He shared his personal journey of developing “full body listening” and the challenges of maintaining boundaries while being present for others. Todd also introduced the concept of “liberosis,” a term from John Koenig’s Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows, which describes the desire to care a little less and loosen one’s grip on concerns.
Embracing Freedom in Life’s Flow
Todd discussed the concept of liberosis, which he described as allowing oneself to move freely from one thing to the next with less expectation and more freedom of expression. He explained that this way of being is connected to liberation and can help people enjoy life more by trusting that what comes next might be useful or helpful. Todd also noted that while goals are not inherently bad, they can become a source of heaviness if one believes that life’s enjoyment or success depends solely on achieving planned outcomes.
Transforming Perception for Fulfillment
Todd discussed the concept of shifting perceptions and how changing one’s understanding of words like “miracle” or “productivity” can lead to a transformed experience of the world. He referenced Marianne Williamson’s book “Return to Love,” which defines a miracle as a shift in perception, and shared insights from Wayne Dyer’s book “When You Change the Way You Look at Things, the Things You Look at Change.” Todd emphasized that altering one’s perspective on concepts like beauty or productivity can lead to a more authentic and fulfilling life, highlighting the importance of aligning personal values with these perceptions.
Human Connection Over AI
Todd discussed the fundamental human need for connection, contrasting survival with the deeper purpose of being interconnected in various aspects of life. He emphasized the value of human interaction over AI, highlighting that while AI can be a useful tool, especially for those who cannot afford therapy, real change often requires human connection. Todd also announced the upcoming launch of “Zen Pop Parenting” and encouraged listeners to join Team Zen for parenting support, subscribe to his Substack for articles, and follow Men Living for resources and events aimed at personal growth and connection for men.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody, big things ahead. Don't worry, we're not going anywhere. For the past 15 years, Zen |
| 0:05.2 | Parenting Radio has brought you thoughtful conversations about mindfulness, parenting, compassion, |
| 0:09.8 | and self-awareness, and a bit of pop culture, too. Well, we're ready to modernize. |
| 0:15.1 | We'll be exploring the same themes, but from a new direction. As Jen Exha's who grew up with pop culture |
| 0:20.6 | and are now raising |
| 0:21.5 | kids in it, we've always known that pop culture plays a big role in our relationships and family |
| 0:26.7 | culture. And it's been a touchstone, a conversation starter, and a way we've stayed connected |
| 0:31.4 | and made sense of the world. Starting June 1st, you'll hear us talk more about the shows and music |
| 0:37.4 | we grew up with and what's new now and how it all reflects our societal values, our blind spots, our potential for growth, and the ways we connect with our children and each other. |
| 0:47.7 | We'll still be diving into mindfulness, parenting, compassion, and self-awareness, but pop culture will be our main entry point. |
| 0:54.7 | For example, you might be interested in how MTV shaped our beliefs in parenting, |
| 0:58.5 | why George Michael's father figure has somehow stayed relevant and even interesting to our kids |
| 1:03.6 | and how the E-True Hollywood story on Robert Downey Jr. remind us what addiction looked like |
| 1:09.0 | long before he became our kid's hero as Ironman. |
| 1:12.7 | We're also making this shift because we believe, especially right now, we all need more |
| 1:16.8 | reminders of our connection, a bit of optimism and humor, and a historical pop culture lens |
| 1:21.4 | to help us remember that we're still in this together and that we're going to be okay. |
| 1:26.1 | It's a small shift that means a lot to us. |
| 1:28.8 | We know that pop culture is a mirror, and when we look at it with curiosity and honesty, |
| 1:32.7 | we find deeper insight into who we are, what we care about, and how we want to show up in the |
| 1:37.8 | world. |
| 1:38.5 | So stay tuned. |
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