We'll be talking about the impact of gun violence in this podcast.

If this is a difficult topic for you, please take care when listening.

I was just like angry, like real angry.

I said, there is no God and now I have proof.

There's no merciful God would do whatever do this.

Look at how many kids went through this.

Even now, I'm not religious.

I'm spiritual because I've pulled myself out of that.

That spiral that was in, there was no one else that was going to pull me out of it, other than myself.

My name is Amy Over and this is confronting Columbine.

I'm Nancy Glass with Amy Over and this week's episode of confronting Columbine is unusual.

Isn't it Amy?

I mean, you talk to people you thought you knew well and it turns out there were things you didn't know.

You're right.

Zack and Zack are two of my closest and dearest friends.

Besides my husband, they're their two closest people in my world.

And the truth that I learned about them in this series shocked me.

I didn't know some of the things and for decades, they never told me, especially Zach Rismiller.

I mean, he has been harboring this for years and has never told me.

It's an incredible story.

I'm going to meet your high school friend, Zack Rismiller.

I'm talking to one of my dearest, dearest friends, Zack Rismiller.

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