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Confronting

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Confronting

GLASS | Wondery

True Crime, Confronting, Colorado, Society & Culture, Documentary, Goldman, Kim Goldman, Oj Simpson, Confronting Columbine, Exhibit C, Confronting Oj, Amy Over, Rebels, Columbine, Oj, Kim

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Quantico comes to Columbine when Mary Ellen O’Toole arrives in Littleton nearly a year after the massacre. The perpetrators knew they would die on Judgement Day so they left videos to explain their actions. Mary Ellen O’Toole was the FBI profiler who analyzed those tapes and shares her impressions with Amy. Then Amy talks with best-selling Columbine author Dave Cullen. Dave sets the record straight about myths surrounding Columbine’s social dynamics, which continue to be perpetuated 21 years after the massacre. 

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0:00.0

We'll be talking about the impact of gun violence in this podcast.

0:04.7

If this is a difficult topic for you, please take care when listening.

0:12.4

Predatory behavior is that you are looking for somebody to hurt to kill.

0:17.6

And what's particularly important was just the ability to still be somewhat cool, calm,

0:23.6

and collected while being in the cafeteria and terrorizing people, even to the point of

0:30.4

picking up a cup of one of the tables and taking a sip.

0:35.4

There was a curl calmness about Paris and Cleveland in spite of all of you who were hiding

0:42.4

under tables and pushing chairs over and running for your life, that ability to be strategic

0:49.1

and thoughtful under the worst of circumstances and you're causing it.

0:54.3

You're causing those worst of circumstances.

1:04.9

My name is Amy Over and this is confronting Columbine.

1:17.8

I'm Nancy Glass here with Amy Over.

1:22.8

Amy, I am so fascinated by this.

1:25.8

An FBI profiler was brought in to study the killers and she was also asked to review videos

1:32.1

they made.

1:33.4

She wanted to keep them private.

1:35.5

The media wanted the videos released publicly and they sued.

1:40.0

Yes, they did.

1:41.3

And today we're talking to Mary Eleanor Tool.

1:43.7

She's brilliant and a straight shooter.

1:46.2

She has tons of insight on mass shootings and she is the reason why they kept the basement

1:52.3

tapes private.

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