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Ukrainecast

What are Russians thinking?

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Why are so many of them avoiding “disturbing information” about Ukraine?

Victoria and Vitaly are joined by Lyse Doucet, who is in Dnipro, where rows of graves are being dug in anticipation of more people being killed in the war.

Grigory Yudin, from the Moscow School of Social and Economic Sciences, tells us more about public opinion in Russia and about what it’s like to publicly speak out against the war while living there.

And Ukraine are through to the final of the Eurovision Song Contest. We speak to the country's commentator, Timur Miroshnychenko, who was broadcasting for the semi-final from a temporary studio in a bomb shelter.

This episode of Ukrainecast was made by Estelle Doyle with Osman Iqbal and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The assistant editor was Sam Bonham. The editor was Jonathan Aspinwall.

Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 0330 1234 220.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.8

Hello, it's 77 days since Russian forces invaded Ukraine.

0:10.5

Today we're going to hear from an expert in public opinion in Russia.

0:15.9

And he told us, and it surprised us,

0:19.7

that Russians were not influenced by the propaganda they're surrounded by.

0:26.0

There's this huge myth that Russians are unaware of what's going on in Ukraine.

0:32.1

That they're completely brainwashed, particularly in the audience of state control TV.

0:36.9

Well, this is definitely not true.

0:38.6

This is not how Russian propaganda works.

0:41.2

Now, whether the Kremlin's media messaging works is, I feel, a key question,

0:48.3

because without it, none of this would be happening.

0:52.6

This is Ukraine cast.

0:55.7

Ukraine cast, from this news.

0:58.3

The question for us now is to be or not to be.

1:03.2

I'm ordering the Ministry of Defense to put the strategic nuclear forces on special alert.

1:08.6

I could not imagine that I would find out that actually my home is bombed.

1:13.4

Putin is the aggression.

1:15.4

He will never be able to cleanse the blood from his hands.

1:20.6

Hello, this is Victoria at Home in London.

1:23.0

And this is Lee's.

1:23.9

I'm in Dineepro in Central East Ukraine.

1:26.8

And this is Vitaly in the Ukraine cast studio in London.

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