Summary
Russian soldiers have been seen shooting dead unarmed civilians.
Victoria and Vitaly are joined by Newsnight’s Lewis Goodall. They hear from a soldier, Volodomyr Demchenko who explains why he is fighting, his worries for his country, and his causes for optimism.
We also hear why Finland is intending to join Nato, with Oksana Antonenko, a correspondent from the BBC Russian Service.
This episode of Ukrainecast was made by Phil Marzouk with Alix Pickles and Osman Iqbal. The technical producer was Emma Crowe. The assistant editor was Sam Bonham.
Get in touch! Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk or send us a message or voice note on WhatsApp, our number is +44 0330 1234 220.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:04.9 | Hello, it's 78 days since Russian forces invaded Ukraine. |
| 0:09.8 | And our Eastern Europe correspondent Sarah Reinsford has got hold of some CCTV footage from |
| 0:18.3 | just outside Kiev at the height of the fighting around the capital. |
| 0:24.4 | And the CCTV shows four or five Russian soldiers on the outside of a gate that is locked |
| 0:32.0 | and it's at a bicycle shop and the security guard, Leonid Plyats, goes to talk to them |
| 0:39.2 | so they're talking to each other on either side of this locked gate. |
| 0:42.6 | And the CCTV shows them having a conversation and the Russian soldiers even smoking. |
| 0:48.6 | It seems reasonably casual and then the conversation ends and Leonid turns his back and he's with |
| 0:55.2 | his boss but you don't see his boss, turns back to work, back into work, the soldiers walk away. |
| 1:01.6 | However, a couple of them turn around, come back to the gates with their guns and they shoot |
| 1:08.2 | Leonid and his boss in the back. This is captured on the footage but the BBC isn't showing it for |
| 1:16.2 | obvious reasons. And what Sarah has done is got the footage from multiple cameras which show these |
| 1:23.6 | Russian soldiers then breaking in, looting, having a drink, doing whatever they want. |
| 1:29.4 | And this is the man we saw shooting now helping himself to a drink. |
| 1:34.2 | Leonid has somehow survived this shooting. He drags himself to his kind of office and he calls |
| 1:43.0 | for help. He also calls his friend, a man called Vasyl Podlevsky, as he sat bleeding heavily. |
| 1:53.1 | I asked how he was. I said, can you at least bandage yourself up? |
| 1:57.9 | And he said, Vasya, I barely crawled here. Everything hurts so much. I feel really bad. |
| 2:04.2 | So I told him to hang in there and started calling the territorial defence. |
| 2:09.2 | And Sarah also spoke to Leonid's daughter, Yulia Andrewschuk, who wants justice for her father. |
| 2:18.7 | My dad was not a military man at all. He was a pensioner. They killed a 65-year-old. |
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