What Addiction (and Recovery) Can Teach Us About Change with Eric Zimmer

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.8 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Eric Zimmer, a behavior coach and the host of The One You Feed podcast, joins Forrest and Rick to explore what really supports us in changing our ingrained patterns of behavior through the lens of Eric’s journey with addiction and recovery. They share the key lessons from speaking with hundreds of experts, the role of insight, why some people go from insight to action and others don’t, acceptance, shame, and responsibility, and the balance between determinism and agency. About our Guest: Eric is a behavior coach, interfaith spiritual director, and host of The One You Feed, which has over 500 episodes and 25 million downloads. At 24, Eric was homeless and addicted to heroin. In the years since he’s been in recovery, built a meaningful and fulfilling life for himself, and has used the lessons from his own life to help others do the same. Watch the Episode: Prefer watching video? You can watch this episode on YouTube. New Online Course From Dr. Rick: Learn the tools you need to build strong, healthy, fulfilling relationships of all kinds in Rick's new Strong Heart Relationship Series. The program begins on February 18th, and all the teaching is recorded so you can watch on your own schedule. Visit RickHanson.net/strongheart to learn more and get 20% with coupon code BeingWell20. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 2:25: The parable of the two wolves 7:45: Applying our values to our own mental processes 13:00: Change as a three part process: insight, acceptance, and action 14:50: Why some people have an easier time changing than others 19:30: Continuous feedback, quick iterations, and where you rest your mind 23:00: Do we all have the same level of choice? 26:40: Shame, and differing interventions for differing levels of agency 32:40: Feeding the good wolf 40:35: How to want what’s good for us 47:10: Acceptance, responsibility, and beginner’s mind 50:10: What’s missing from the abstinence model? 52:20: Innate goodness, bumping into enlightenment, and self-compassion 1:01:50: “Devote yourself to what remains” 1:03:55: Recap Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp, and you can join over a million people using the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month! Want to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription. Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, welcome to Being Well, I'm Forest Hansen.
0:10.7	If you're new to the podcast, this is where we explore the practical science of personal
0:14.6	growth.
0:15.6	And if you've listened before, welcome back.
0:17.7	I'm joined as usual by Dr. Rick Hansen, Rick is a clinical psychologist, a best-selling
0:22.5	author, and he's also my dad, so dad, how are you doing today?
0:26.4	I'm really good for us, and I'm especially psyched to talk with a fellow podcaster and
0:31.6	a seriously cool guy, Eric Zimmer, so I'm looking forward to this.
0:35.8	Yeah, and this is actually a very cool episode of the podcast for me.
0:39.6	Personally, Eric is the host of the One You Feed, and when I was considering starting
0:44.6	a podcast of my own, this was one of the ones that I listened to really regularly, and
0:49.8	it was also at the top of the various podcast charts a lot, so it was kind of this like
0:54.0	aspirational thing for me, where if I had a podcast like that, that's how I would know
0:58.4	that I had really made it, or something like that, so it's just really cool to have Eric
1:02.5	on the show today.
1:03.8	To let you know a little bit more about him, Eric is a behavior coach, an interfaith spiritual
1:08.5	director, a writer, and as I said, the host of the One You Feed podcast, the podcast has
1:13.8	over 500 episodes.
1:16.1	It's received just about every award out there, and it's one of the most influential shows
1:21.1	in the space.
1:22.2	And I think that part of the reason for that is that the show is informed very heavily
1:26.1	by Eric's personal history.
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