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You're listening to Women at Work from Harvard Business Review.

I'm Amy Bernstein.

And I'm Amy Gallo.

Welcome to season 10 of our show. It was hard to imagine starting this season

with any other topic than the possibility that

Kamala Harris might become the first female president of the United States.

And the question of what our presidency would mean to us, what we as working women stand to gain or lose in terms of status and power,

and perhaps even more importantly, our sense of possibility. I guess the question here is what's

the true value of representation? We know there's value in seeing people like yourself in positions of power.

It allows you to imagine yourself in those same roles.

I actually once, way back, thought I might be in VP Harris's shoes.

My diary from the second grade had a blank line in the inside cover where you were supposed

to write your name and I wrote Amy Gallo first female president of the

United States.

Amy that image of ambitious eight-year-old you gives me so much joy. Yeah I definitely did not understand what it would take to

achieve that goal clearly but I love that I thought it was possible and I know that

eight-year-old me would have been thrilled watching the enthusiasm and

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