Hello, everyone, this is JVL, here with my best friends, Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the bulwark.

Guys, it's Liberation Day. It's going to happen. The markets are going to close.

And once the market's closed, then Donald Trump is going to be willing to share his beautiful, very strong historic.

Many people are saying with tears in their

eyes, fantastic vision for the American economy. Guys, are you excited? Sarah? Can somebody give me

the genesis of Liberation Day? I think my understanding from the great reporting that the mainstream

media is doing, holding this administration to the

account, is that Howard Lutnik, the Department of Commerce Secretary, this is a brainchild of his,

and Donald Trump took to it. It seems like some of the other colleagues who are whispering

anonymously to those reporters aren't quite as fond of it. It seems like some of the other colleagues who are whispering anonymously to those reporters

aren't quite as fond of it. And that's Howard. Obviously, if you do a disastrous economy-breaking

executive order, it's the Department of Commerce Secretary is the one that gets, you know, held

to account.

So if things go really bad, he might end up being the fall guy.

But I think that's it.

I don't know if he had watched Independence Day recently or I was listening to the song Expiration Day. What are we being liberated from besides our wallets?

I think we're being liberated from the evil foreigners who are controlling our economy.

See, this is interesting messaging, since neither of you can tell us what we're being liberated from decisively.

You both have different ideas.

And here's the thing, though.

I think that it's not the worst idea to name it something absurd that has no

resonance and that won't stick ultimately other than as a joke for something that's very

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