Hey guys, quick topper here before we get into TNL because right after we taped Donald Trump,

he bleated an update on the tariff situation, which we obviously talk a lot about on the show

where we're going to, you know, go harder at China, but he's doing this 90-day pause with everybody else

because, oh, you know, everybody is calling for him to negotiate.

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't change that much of the conversation we just had because,

well, number one, this is Trump blinking.

But two, more importantly, our analysis really does reflect the fact that the ups and downs of the stock markets, the pauses, whatever,

it all reflects the same chaos

that makes it impossible to have an economy impossible for people to trust us. And so,

while I don't think it changes the main confers of the conversation, we did want to just say

that we taped before this had happened. And so with that context, enjoy the show.

Hello, everyone. It's JVL here with my best friends, Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the

bulwark. Great news. Great news.

Coal. Clean coal is back. Pharmaceutical tariffs are coming. That's on the on the road.

And as we are sitting to tape midway through Wednesday, the Dow Jones Industrial

average is even.

Huge.

So, I mean, I feel like we've really turned this thing around.

And all those people who were who were wet

in the bed about oh it's the worst three day run in stock market history like it guys just chill out

just chill out it's all good donnie's at the wheel he's got this so uh is that true is this good i don't that's that good i mean

that's that's that's that's that's the month bring that back to the last three hours sarah okay well

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