You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds. Right, emergency podcast. There was a text earlier, am I?

Are you free this afternoon, mate?

And immediately you came back with,

is this about Warbee?

And it was before the news had been announced officially,

and yeah, I think we were all in for quite

either I was I had 18 all's down in Royal Port Court with a couple of mates nice

relax day I'm sure your boys you boys were in the office kicking about looking at Facebook and

that's a jollire day in the office yeah not my sport going on the World Cup

everything just finished really and then yeah this a bit of a bomb shell, it is a shock, isn't it a bombshell?

I think so.

One of those that wasn't really leaked previously.

You know, there hasn't really been in England about it, is it, over the last week or so?

When did you honestly know?

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