I'm You know, this book was reminding me as I was reading it, a lot of grad school and the things that I was assigned in grad school.

And in fact, recently I moved offices and I had a smaller bookshelf in my new office, so I actually had to clear out a lot of my old books.

And I was reading Western Marxism as I was doing it,

and making a very conscious decision about what I was going to keep

and what I was going to get rid of.

And this actually helped get rid of a lot of it,

because there was a lot of frustrations I had,

you know, in grad school.

And I don't want to turn this interview into a grad seminar because I want people to kind of be

excited about this and really, you know, take something away that they might not, you know,

if they're not in grad school or they're not in the university. But before we get into that, maybe you can just talk a little bit about yourself, Gabriel,

and where you're calling from, but also what was your role in getting this book published?

Hi everyone.

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