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Four of them are definite human sacrifice ones.

The victims are easily picked up.

They are wandering teenagers looking for a good time.

Runaways, skid row, bum, paper boys, paper girls.

You can go out to the street.

The day before or the day doing, pick up that child, drug him or whoever you want to get them ready for the ceremony and at that time they will slice the person's

throat open oh pick up the blood and a challenge because they believe that the power can in the blood

will add to them how do you know this how do you know this i wasn't the only one who practices them. How do you know this?

I wasn't the only one who practiced this.

So have you practiced in going out and picking up people off the street and slicing their drugs?

Yes, they were the easiest way to get into it.

In 1980, a Canadian psychiatrist named Lawrence Pazder published a book with his patient and eventual wife, Michelle Smith.

The book was called Michelle Remembers, and it told a story so horrifying and so extreme that it

should have been easily dismissed as fantasy. It was not. It actually became a bestseller.

Under Pazder's guidance, using a technique called

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