Hey guys, welcome back to Skin Anarchy. This is your host, Ecta, and I'm really excited about our guest today because I think when it comes to beauty, as many of you know, clean beauty is definitely on everyone's mind. And when it comes to cosmetics, that becomes even more confusing. Because understanding what clean cosmetics means and, you know, how they're formulated, what are the best

brands. This is going to be a little confusing for all of us. So when we find a really great brand,

I know I personally love to cling to it and really dive into it. So, you know, without further ado,

I want to introduce you guys to Shirley Pinkston Manias, who is the co-founder of the Clean Beauty

brand, Well People, and she is also the

current head of education for Elf Beauty. She was an early pioneer in the Clean Beauty movement

in which she pushed the industry forward in this plant-powered, cruelty-free, and

EWG verified formulations perspective, you know, that she's been utilizing for well people.

So I'm really excited to chat with Shirley today and to understand what it truly means to

formulate clean beauty products in the cosmetic space specifically. Welcome to the show,

Shirley. I'm so excited to be hosting you. Thank you so much for that gracious introduction.

And I'm super excited to be here with you today.

And I'm excited to talk about all things good for you and clean beauty.

Yeah, I'm excited to learn from you.

And I would love to learn more about you.

If you could tell me a little bit about your background and what got you involved in the beauty space, like to begin with. I mean, I know you've done such amazing work here.

I'd love to learn about what inspired you to go into this direction with your career.

Thank you. I don't know if we have enough time to go through it all, but I can give you this short

version. You know, it's funny is I went to school and started out as pre-med.

And it didn't quite click to me or click with me.

And so I started, I decided to pay for school on my own, and I worked behind the beauty counter, and I actually worked for the body shop back when it was owned by Anita Rodic.

And she was a huge mentor to me and taught me how beauty, a beauty sector in its entirety, how there was so much possibility of doing good just beyond making

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