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You're listening to Well Now Slate's podcast on Health and Wellness. I'm Kavita Patel. And I'm Maya Feller.

So Kavita, I remember when I was teaching nutrition through the life cycle at NYU. And we got to this section in the text where I was supposed to talk about the menopausal transition. It was a really short section. And I really remember that it was like maybe five paragraphs

tops. And the main takeaway was that as women who are going to go through that menopausal transition,

basically we just become more like our male counterparts. And once we're postmenopausal,

the risk of weight gain and heart disease increases, like literally

not much more. So, Kavita, I want to know what did you learn in medical school?

Oh, you're making me go way back at the time machine, Maya, but I remember that everything I

learned about menopause, and very little, by the way, about perimenopause. It wasn't as much of part of the

medical education culture in the early 2000s, but what I learned about menopause really had

much more to do with just like the physiology of the hormones and estrogen, testosterone,

and levels, and this and that, and sometimes a little bit on the clinical presentation,

mostly around hot flashes.

And then 2002, when I was in residency, was when the women's health study had come out,

and that was considered like a landmark groundbreaking revolutionary study that said

that all these women who we were putting in an estrogen were at an

increased risk for cancer. New information this morning on what has been a somewhat confusing topic,

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