Welcome to Law School 2025
5-4
Prologue Projects
4.5 • 3.7K Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2025
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Summary
Kudos to everyone who is starting law school in this economy and during an authoritarian regime. In this annual episode, Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael share their wisdom on how to survive law school.
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5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Transcriptions of each episode are available at fivefourpod.com
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Oh, sweetheart, you don't need law school. |
| 0:02.6 | Law schools for people who are boring and ugly and serious. |
| 0:11.0 | Hey, y'all, it's Riannon. |
| 0:13.2 | Guess what? |
| 0:14.3 | It's that time of year again. |
| 0:16.3 | Law students across the country, either going back for their 2L and 3L years, or if you are |
| 0:24.4 | particularly masochistic, you are starting law school in 2025. |
| 0:30.4 | Brand new 1Ls, how you feel in? |
| 0:32.8 | Bad? |
| 0:34.0 | Yeah, that tracks. |
| 0:35.9 | Anyways, since it is that time of year, we are dropping, or I should say, re-dropping |
| 0:41.4 | our annual now episode, Welcome to Law School. |
| 0:45.7 | We first released this episode in 2021 at the beginning of the school year. |
| 0:52.9 | And since then, we've released it every year since, |
| 0:55.8 | because we find it to still be relevant, highly accurate, and hopefully helpful to those of you |
| 1:03.6 | starting law school or just needing a reminder about what law school really is and what it really |
| 1:09.7 | isn't. |
| 1:16.3 | So please enjoy this 2025 version of the Welcome to Law School episode. |
| 1:20.6 | And stay strong. Stay woke. See you guys. |
| 1:29.9 | Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have drained our spirits like a law school orientation. I'm Peter. I'm here with Riannon. Hello. |
| 1:35.7 | And Michael. Yeah, those are pretty enervating, huh? They really just take the life out of you. |
| 1:42.3 | An annual tradition here, folks. A few years ago, we put out an episode called Welcome to Law School, |
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