Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot School

of Theology here at Biola University.

And I'm your co-host Sean McDow, Professor of Apologetics at Talbot School of Theology

Biola University.

We're here with our guest today, Mark Vergop, who's the lead pastor of College Park Church in Indianapolis.

He's got a brand new book out entitled, Weep With Me, subtitle How Lament Opens

a Door for Racial Reconciliation.

Mark, we're so glad to have you with us.

Thanks for taking the time to come on and talk about your book.

You've got some terrific things to say, very insightful stuff on the subject of

racial reconciliation. Well guys thanks for having me on and I appreciate your

interest in the subject of the book. Let me ask you just the first sort of obvious question to get it out of the way, because I suspect

some of our listeners will be thinking the same thing.

This is a book by a white pastor on racial reconciliation.

So two things, what motivated you to write this?

And some critics might wonder,

why should we take a book written by a white pastor

on racial reconciliation? Why should we take that seriously?

It's a great question. I'm really glad you asked because I wrestled with that and quite frankly some of my

friends wrestled with that. Why would a white guy write a book on this

and essentially I never intended to but in God's Providence two things merged at the same time one

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