Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics, Talbot School of Theology here at Biola University.

And I'm your co-host Sean McDowell, Professor of... School of Theology here at Biola University.

And I'm your co-host, Sean McDowell,

Professor of Apologetics at Talbot School Theology,

Biola University.

We're here with our guest today, Justin Gibboni,

who is a co-founder of the And campaign, also his

training as an attorney, he's also been a political strategist. Justin, we're so

delighted to have you with us.

He is the co-author of a terrific new book entitled Compassion and Conviction,

Subtitled The End Campaign's Guide to Faithful Civic Engagement. Justin, welcome. We're delighted to faithful civic engagement.

Justin welcome.

We're delighted to have a chance to talk to you about this terrific new book that you've

co-authored with your colleagues, Michael Ware, and Chris Butler.

Hey guys, thanks for having me.

I'm excited to be on.

So just to tell us, tell our listeners first of all, what is the And campaign and what are its goals?

Sure, so the End campaign is a Christian civic organization that is really trying to, number one, raise the, raised civic literacy among Christians.

So we want Christians to better understand the process and better

understand policy. And then we want to help Christians apply their values to the

issues of the day. We think that unfortunately there is a false dichotomy in our political in our political landscape where if you believe in justice then you go to the left and if you believe in more, you go to the right.

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