Weekend Rewind: Our Conversation with Nicola Sturgeon
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 19 February 2023
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
This week in a surprise move, the First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, announced her resignation. So in light of this profoundly ego-less moment of leadership, we revisit a stirring conversation we had with her in 2021 when we visited the First Minister at her residence in Edinburgh during the TED Countdown Conference.
Our conversation surrounded this new vision she had brought forth into the world for small countries collaborating on climate action, detailed in the instantly-popular TED Talk she had just delivered earlier that day (immediately followed by a standing ovation). Tom said, “it was one of the best I’ve ever seen.”
This interview is part of a longer episode we published in 2021 titled, ‘Small Countries, Big Vision with Nicola Sturgeon’. You can listen to that full episode and more by visiting the Outrage + Optimism website or by finding us wherever you get your podcasts.
Enjoy the Rewind.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. You probably have heard that Nicola Sturgeon, First Minister of Scotland, |
| 0:06.9 | has announced that she will step down after eight years at the helm of the Government |
| 0:11.6 | of Scotland. It is honestly very sad that yet another brilliant woman is leaving the |
| 0:18.8 | public arena. But this is such a lesson in eagulous leadership, not very common among |
| 0:28.5 | politicians. So kudos to her for that. Now on this historical occasion we thought we |
| 0:35.6 | would share with you as a little weakened bonus and in-depth interview we had the honor |
| 0:42.2 | of having with her in her residence in Edinburgh in 2021 when we were there for the Ted Countdown |
| 0:52.3 | Conference. We started the interview by asking her about a letter that she had just written |
| 1:00.3 | to the then Prime Minister of UK Boris Johnson about shutting the Campbell oil field, |
| 1:07.8 | very interesting her articulation of the arguments behind that letter. Now Nicola Sturgeon will go |
| 1:16.8 | down in history for leadership in many different areas. But just on climate we have Nicola Sturgeon |
| 1:25.4 | to thank for Scotland's very ambitious climate change legislation which sets a target for net zero |
| 1:34.6 | emissions of all greenhouse gases by 2045. That is the most ambitious policy in the UK and I would |
| 1:43.2 | dare say across most of the countries of the world. But even beyond Scotland and beyond the UK |
| 1:52.4 | she has been an inspirational leader. She has been an inspirational leader for all small countries. |
| 1:58.8 | She was one of the founding members of what is called the Under Two Coalition which is today the |
| 2:07.0 | largest network of states, regions and provinces. Over 270 governments representing 1.75 billion |
| 2:18.7 | people and about 50% of the global economy. She has been a guiding light for all of those |
| 2:28.8 | national and sub-national governments proving the fact that just because your jurisdiction is small |
| 2:37.8 | it doesn't mean that your ambition has to be small. I also fondly remember Nicola Sturgeon because |
| 2:46.8 | I also in 2021 on the occasion of COP26 in Glasgow I had the honor to deliver the McCauley lecture |
| 2:57.5 | at the Hutton Institute together with Nicola Sturgeon and I have such a fond memory because after |
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