WEDNESDAY creators Al Gough & Miles Millar

Happy Sad Confused

Josh Horowitz

Tv & Film

4.5 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Whether it's Superman or Spider-Man or Wednesday Addams, Miles Millar and Al Gough have made a career of giving their unique take on iconic characters. Here they join Josh to chat about SMALLVILLE, SPIDER-MAN 2, WEDNESDAY, their early script for IRON MAN, and more! UPCOMING EVENTS! August 13th -- John Turturro in New York! -- Get your tickets here! August 14th -- The Thursday Murder Club with Helen Mirren, Pierce Brosnan, Ben Kingsley, & Chris Columbus in New York! ⁠-- Get your tickets here! August 15th -- Ben Stiller & Seth Rogen LIVE in Los Angeles -- ⁠⁠Get your tickets here ⁠⁠ Check out the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy Sad Confused patreon here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes, video versions of the podcast, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Prepare your ears, humans.
0:02.0	Happy, Sad, Confused begins now.
0:07.0	Hey guys today on Happy, Sad, Confused.
0:10.0	We have the brains behind Wednesday, Spider-Man 2, Smallville,
0:14.0	and so many other projects from the last few decades,
0:17.0	Miles Millar and Al Goff on Happy Second Feuds today.
0:22.6	Hey guys, I'm Josh.
0:25.3	Thanks as always for checking out the podcast today.
0:31.5	Another fun one with, as I said, these guys have been doing it for a minute and they have really navigated the industry well thanks to their perseverance and talent.
0:39.7	Miles Malar, Al Goff. These might be, look,
0:43.7	unhappy second views, we have a lot of, like, huge names, the recognizable names. Like,
0:47.9	these might not be the first names that ring a bell, but you certainly know the things that they have written, the stuff that they have showrun, their series and films. Their current project
0:53.8	is the second season of Wednesday. They are the
0:57.4	showrunners behind this phenomenal success story led by Jenna Ortega, directed by the great Tim Burton.
1:08.9	And I think you guys are going to really dig this conversation.
1:12.1	They have all the stories.
1:14.1	They have been through it.
1:15.9	Sure, we talk about Wednesday, I'm working with Jenna and Tim.
1:20.5	But these guys wrote the initial story for Spider-Man 2.
1:25.1	That's right.
1:25.7	Like one of the all-time great Spider-Man films.
1:29.2	They've got the dirt on that. They have the stories behind Iron Man. They wrote a screenplay for Iron Man back when it was supposed to be a Tom Cruise vehicle. Stories there. They also created Smallville, which I know many people in my life were, are obsessed with Smallville.
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