Hello and welcome back to the Get Your Globe at podcast. I'm joined today by the wonderful Julia Samuel MBE.

Julia is a counsellor for paediatrics at London St Mary's Hospital, Paddington, where she works with grieving parents and children who have experienced lost themselves.

She is a vice president of the British Association of Counselling

and Psychotherapy, an honorary fellow of the Imperial College and founder patron of the Child

Bereavement UK, an organisation set up to teach authorities and professionals how to support families

and rebuild their lives after loss. We spoke all about her new book, This Two Shall Pass,

which is all about dealing with the transitions of life. Change is really the one constant that we all

have and Julia explains how to adapt successfully to the changes we all must go through to grow.

I absolutely loved speaking to Julia and I'm so excited for

you to hear this conversation. So let's bring on the wonderful Julia. Julia, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you so much for being here. It's lovely to be here. Lovely to meet you. Lovely to meet you

too. I'm super excited to talk about your book, but I kind of want to get a little bit of a background on you.

You had quite an interesting childhood, and I'd love to know what led you to being a psychotherapist.

I think like with most psychotherapists, you know, you come into it as a wounded healer.

You know, I had lots of

amazing things in my childhood, but both my parents had had significant bereavements before they

married. So by the time my mom was 25, her mother, her father, her sister and her brother had all

died, you know, in the war and other things. And my dad, his father and his brother. So there

were black and white photographs around the house of these very significant people, but I didn't

barely know who they were. So there was a lot that was unvoiced and unsaid, and a lot we had to

sort of guess at. And I think unconsciously that influenced me. What I'm most interested in

therapy is not what you look like, but what is going on on the inside. And I think that was

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