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Meanwhile, if I might take the conversation to a higher plane, it's a pleasure to welcome back to the Armstrong and Getty show after too long in absence.

Greg Lukianoff, author along with Jonathan Haidt, of the coddling of the American mind and a book length extension and examination of their terrific groundbreaking Atlantic article

of a couple of months ago, or a couple of years ago, rather.

Greg is also, I believe, one of the founders of fire defending individual rights in higher

education, joins us now.

Hello, Greg.

How are you, sir?

That's great to be back.

Thank you.

How long ago was that Atlantic article?

It was 2015. It was the summer of 2015.

Wow. Well, you didn't turn things around with that article because things are worse now than they were.

Well, hey, hey, hey, you have to slow the ship before you turn it.

By the way, we decided to write the book is things got so much crazier after we wrote the article.

We were like, ooh, okay.

I think we have to go a little deeper into it. Yeah. Okay. A couple of quick notes before we dive into it in depth, Greg. Number one, I am proudly sending my youngest to a university that gets a green light from fire. Terrific. For communication. And I thank you for furnishing that resource. Secondly, as I was Googling your book and typed simply the cod, your book came up immediately

instead of that delicious fish.

That is a delicious fish.

It is getting some attention.

Thank God.

So let's talk about the coddling of the American minds, specifically young minds and the damage

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