Hey, everyone. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the bulwark. I'm here with Andrew Egger,

partner in crime, author of Morning Shots, must read newsletter. We just watched an hour and a half

Trump cabinet meeting. We made it. At various points, I didn't know if we were going to make it,

but we did. And I wasn't as tongue-bathy as some of the

other ones were, but it was pretty tongue-bathy. At one point, I think Doug Bergam talked about a

statue being erected of Trump in Venezuela. I literally think they're going to put a statute to

President Trump, and I'm not being, it's not a political statement. It's an actual thing. That would be a great arm. No, because it's like they view President Trump like Simon Wollary. And he thought it was like, I'm not trying to be political. And Trump was like, oh, I would love that. But that's not even like the top of the craziness here. Andrew, thankfully, has organized his thoughts better than I have. We're going to gamify this

a little bit. We're going to do top five, wildest, craziest moments, most mind-boggling utterances

from the cabin meeting. Andrew's going to do his five. I'm just going to set it up. I have a few

that I'm going to talk about, but I kind of agree with most of your five,

Andrew, but there's one or two that I think you missed. But let's go with your number five.

This is from, we're going in order from least wild of the five to most wild. So number five,

what do we get? Least wild to most wild within reason. Almost everything was said in this entire cabinet meeting was kind of insane. So we're already working with the crim of the crem de la crem here. One of the reasons why, like you said, it was not as tongue bathy as it could have been or as these sometimes are, is that there actually was not all that much talking from the cabinet secretaries

in this meeting. Donald Trump was in his bag. He was just going. He was pre-associating. He was doing the

weave. And number five was a moment that came at the end of a very, very long rant, about a 15-minute,

just free associative spiel about how everybody wants to sue him for trying to make

D.C. beautiful again. And the ballrooms, they ought to be suing Jerome Powell instead for the

problems with the Fed renovation building and how, you know, it's good that Janine Piro and Pam Bondi

are going after him and going after the Fed. But everybody's mad about the Kennedy Center.

Everybody's met about the ballrooms.

He goes on about this for about 15 minutes.

And then he gets to this moment where he has somehow worked his way into talking about the pens he uses to sign things.

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